"James R." (jpryan)
11/17/2014 at 11:51 • Filed to: None
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"James R." (jpryan)
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These are trucks:
They are all 4x4's, they all do what a truck needs to do, and aside from the Ford they all have v8's ('merica). All of them cost in the low to mid $30,000 range as well. Dignified, tasteful, utilitarian good 'ole trucks.
These are those same trucks, wearing fancy dresses.
Same 4x4 systems as their less flamboyant siblings, same engines, same transmissions, etc.... Just a bunch of fancy bolt on bits and decadent interiors. Some have a few different suspension bits but everything else mechanical remains the same. Chrome, big wheels, ego boosting stuff. These trucks tell the world you are willing to dump $1000's on vanity.
So how much does all that fancy, ego boostiness stuff cost? Let's take a look:
2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 WT 4X4 - $32,160
2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71 - $43,187 = $11,057 for crap you don't need.
2015 Dodge Ram Tradesman 4x4 - $32,495
2015 Dodge Ram Laramie Limited - $52,570 = $20,075, or a solid used c5 Corvette z06
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2015 Toyota Tundra SR - $32,560
2015 Toyota Tundra Platinum - $49,820 = $17,260 of compensating for something.
2015 Ford F-150 XL - $36,095
2015 Ford F-150 Platinum - $59,085 = $22,990 of look at me I am better than you.
Why not save the money on the stuff you do not really need and put it to something more useful? Take up a new hobby, go on a really awesome vacation, buy a whole car, like a whole functioning car with the money you save not buying with your ego. Not buying trucks wearing fancy dresses.
Coty
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 11:54 |
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And a Corvette isn't vain. Got it.
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James R.
> Coty
11/17/2014 at 11:58 |
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Corvettes are shiny and kind of vain but that is the point of noting that one can be bought for the price of tacking on vanity to a truck. Vanity aside a 400hp car that performs well on the the track for 20k is a bargain....
For Sweden
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 11:58 |
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LOL he mad.
Some people want chrome and leather and are willing to pay for it. If you don't want it don't buy it. Same with buying a Porsche.
Vicente Esteve
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 11:59 |
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Its a good realization. But some people need a truck to act as their SUV and luxury car as well as being able to cope in rough stuff. Their garage may only fit 1 car as well.
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James R.
> For Sweden
11/17/2014 at 12:01 |
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Again the point of the used Corvette, save 20k on the truck and buy a 400hp sports car. Have your cake and eat it too.
OPPOsaurus WRX
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:02 |
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I know a lot of builders/contractors and they all have the top of the line truck. I don't blame them for wanting to be comfortable. A lot of them spend a good amount of time driving from one job site to another. I'd want to be comfortable and I also wouldn't want to be embarrassed getting stuck in the mud at a job site.
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James R.
> Vicente Esteve
11/17/2014 at 12:02 |
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Yea I can understand there will definitely be exceptions and this will not apply to everyone but for a great deal of people who want to daily drive a truck I think it would serve them well to really sit down and crunch some numbers.
MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:05 |
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You shut your face
5.0 V8
(that's all I got, the dress up stuff isn't for me but to each their own)
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:08 |
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Havig driven both bare bones and luxury pickups, I can safely say that the luxury trucks are much, much nicer to live with every day.
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Coty
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:09 |
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I also think you're missing the point of the higher trim trucks.
BigBlock440
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:11 |
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Why not save the money on the stuff you do not really need and put it to something more useful? Take up a new hobby, go on a really awesome vacation, buy a whole car, like a whole functioning car with the money you save not buying with your ego. Not buying trucks wearing fancy dresses.
Why spend money on stuff you don't need when you can spend that same money on other stuff you don't need?
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James R.
> Coty
11/17/2014 at 12:15 |
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Higher trim trucks are part of what led people to thinking that it is okay to daily drive something that is terrible on gas.
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James R.
> BigBlock440
11/17/2014 at 12:18 |
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Hobbies and vacations are important. I am not saying have all the hobbies or all the vacations. Maybe take up cycling, it can be cheap and is great for your health. Or take a vacation to visit family in another state or even another country, expand your worldview and spend time with family.
Dusty Ventures
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:18 |
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For some the extra features can be justified by how much time they have to spend in the truck. In some cases their life/job revolves around spending hours in that cab every single work day. They could end up being in there for as much as 1,800 hours per year (the equivalent of not setting foot out of the cab for 2.5 months. Having personally spent multiple 24 hour days in a Super Duty on multiple occasions I can conclusively say the extra money for extra comfort is worth it if you'll have to spend a lot of time in the cab.
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Coty
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:29 |
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Oh I get it. It's the fuel economy you're concerned with. Not the trim level.
Milky
> Vicente Esteve
11/17/2014 at 12:29 |
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We both know "as well as being able to cope in rough stuff" isn't true. Most trucks (my family members included) don't do any truck activities.
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> Coty
11/17/2014 at 12:33 |
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Those are numbers for the 2014, the 2015 is supposed to be much better. Because of losing a lot of weight. And the Ram Ecodiesel is good for up to 28 highway.
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Milky
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:34 |
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Porridge
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Coty
> Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
11/17/2014 at 12:34 |
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I only go with Ford because that's what I sell. And yeah, '15 is gonna be a lot better.
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James R.
> Coty
11/17/2014 at 12:35 |
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Never said it was okay to daily drive a Corvette either.... The Corvette was just an example of a car someone who would like a high trim level truck would also like and could buy if they skimped on the truck and spent the money elsewhere.
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James R.
> Milky
11/17/2014 at 12:36 |
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I can respect right in the middle.
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Coty
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:36 |
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As someone who has 5 different cars, a bunch of different cars isn't always the best way to do it. I know it sounds like it is, but it isn't.
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Vicente Esteve
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:36 |
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The difference is in german levels of excess.
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James R.
> Coty
11/17/2014 at 12:37 |
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I have two cars and a motorcycle....
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Coty
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:37 |
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And I'm sure they're base models because you are a man of conviction.
briannutter1
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:38 |
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Milky
> briannutter1
11/17/2014 at 12:40 |
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This is the best thing I'll see all day.
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James R.
> Coty
11/17/2014 at 12:42 |
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1992 Honda Accord 276,000 miles (Daily driver). 1997 Honda Civic, turbocharged, 18mpg avg. not a "base model." 2006 Yamaha FZ6 converted to buell front end, I do spend money toys I can admit it.
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Coty
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:43 |
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You coulda bought this for what you spent on turbocharging the Civic.
NeedsmoreaftermarketXTparts
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:43 |
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why a motorcycle when a scooter does the same thing? two wheel transportation for far less $.
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James R.
> Milky
11/17/2014 at 12:44 |
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If I could have hit the star button thingy more than once....
E30Joe drives a Subaru
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 12:46 |
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Literally LOL'ing at this entire post.
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briannutter1
> Milky
11/17/2014 at 12:49 |
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Yes, I guess he drives it regularly around Lubbock Texas I think. We have a little trailer than we load up with motorcycles or whatever and tow behind our WRX. For a person that just uses the pickup bed every once in a while, the cost of the trailer isn't that much and we can drive something with a soul.
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Vicente Esteve
> Milky
11/17/2014 at 12:54 |
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I was referring more to snow. Also, in Mexico they are used for ranches and stuff
nermal
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 13:00 |
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I just got a new truck, and went for the mid-level, lightly optioned.
The "work" trims are generally not nice places to be for a longer period of time. They have the cheapest seats, no adjustments for seats or steering wheel, crappy headlights, and so on and so forth. I checked out a Ram Tradesman, which didn't even have a mirror on the visor, for example.
Also, you have to take into account that there are hardly any no-options models built. Add the few *options* to the base models that everybody gets, yet also come standard on the higher trims, and the prices will be closer. Plus, trucks have a "set high MSRP and discount to sell" pricing model, so there's that to take into account.
That said, $60k for an F150 is ridiculous.
Meatcoma
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 13:04 |
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2015 vette gets 31 hwy.
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James R.
> Meatcoma
11/17/2014 at 13:12 |
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I've always heard they do great on the highway but wasn't sure about the c5 z06 and what it gets on avg.
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James R.
> NeedsmoreaftermarketXTparts
11/17/2014 at 13:17 |
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Paid $4,000 for my motorcycle in 2009, it gets 50 mpg on the highway. It is a happy medium between efficiency and performance.
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Meatcoma
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 13:19 |
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z06? prob 8 lol. 15city 24hwy.
Logansteno: Bought a VW?
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 13:21 |
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While I understand where you're coming from, I'm just going to say I'd much rather have a fancy Bose stereo and heated seats at my disposal while hauling stuff. As someone who's dad drives what's nothing more than a work truck with a couple upgrades (mostly mechanical other than the electric windows and door locks) it isn't a fun place to be for long periods of time. Having you ass coddled in buttery smooth leather and a 900-watt Alpine stereo at your disposal like in my uncle's Ram 1500 Laramie is much better.
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James R.
> Coty
11/17/2014 at 13:28 |
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Can I still buy it?
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Coty
> James R.
11/17/2014 at 13:29 |
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Nope, mein.
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Milky
> Vicente Esteve
11/17/2014 at 13:52 |
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Call it what you want ;)
PS9
> briannutter1
11/17/2014 at 14:54 |
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What the hell...?
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briannutter1
> PS9
11/17/2014 at 15:14 |
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Lemonade from Lemons after being rear-ended? Dunno. It's a full frame car with plenty of power, so I'd feel pretty good up to 2000lbs if the hitch was done right.